The Napoleon of Thought Crime ([info]darthbeckman) wrote,
@ 2008-01-29 09:30:00
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It is truly depressing to contemplate how few politicians are hanged
One of Sullivan's readers writes:

I am right-wing policy wonk, and pro-war at that, but what is going on transcends partisan politics.

I hear people call the comparisons to Camelot romanticized, but are they? Obama doesn't cheat on his wife with movie stars, nor did he come from any familial wealth, especially that gained by (the equivalent of) drug dealing. It would seem an improvement over JFK, or more appropriately, a real human being that can match up to the image of the martyr JFK became.

The main reason I am voting Obama: maybe, if he is elected, people could go back to talking to each other about things that matter; and it might even be socially acceptable for people to change their mind upon reflection.


Regarding the Kennedy comparison... ohhh snap! Conservatives for Obama has to be one of the strangest political phenomenon ever. I dislike Senator Barack "Kill 'em twice" Obama for a pretty obvious reason: he's more pro-abortion than Planned Parenthood. Regardless of whatever other virtues he may possess, I cannot vote for him. I could not and would not vote for a candidate who was pro-abortion even if I agreed with him on everything else. If that makes me a "single issue" voter, then so be it. Catholic social doctrine is the first filter through which I screen candidates for office. Some issues are weightier than others - good lay Catholics can disagree on things like socialized medicine or even capital punishment. There can be no compromise with abortion since it is an intrinsically evil act. Likewise with torture. Even if Mitt "Mitt" Romney were trustworthy, I can't vote for him after that "double Guantanamo" line.

But I understand that not all political conservatives are Catholic. I understand that for many abortion is either a non-issue or, God forgive them, something the government ought not to interfere with at all. That's why "conservatives for Obama" is so weird. He's actually to the left of Hillary. I read his second book, The Audacity of Hope. On every issue that matters he's a conventional liberal. I hate to say it but if he were a white guy named Barry, no one would consider him presidential material, at least not this soon.

That line about "socially acceptable to change their mind" got to me. I don't have a problem at all with someone who honestly changes their mind. I've changed my mind about many things over the past few years. Try reading some of my earliest entries; I sound like a totally different person. There are some people whom I dearly wish would change their minds. Obstinacy in the face of unpleasant facts or irrefutable arguments is no virtue. It can get people killed when it manifests in our leaders. The problem comes when people change their minds simply because their position is unpopular, or worse, to curry favor. That's the vibe I've always gotten from Mitt Romney. What makes that trait doubly irritating is how Romney portrays himself as "More conservative than thou" and questions his opponents' conservative credentials on issues where he only very recently came to religion himself.

So, Florida today. All the polls say it's a statistical tie between McCain and Romney. My perfect record for picking first place winners will surely be broken today. I say Romney by a very narrow margin, say two to three points. McCain second, Giuliani third, followed by Giuliani's dropping out shortly thereafter. I can see Huckabee and Rudy hanging in there through Super Tuesday, but now it seems to be a two man race between McCain and Romney. Joy.



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spineless!
[info]benjaminmann
2008-01-29 07:46 pm UTC (link)
"The main reason I am voting Obama: maybe, if he is elected, people could go back to talking to each other about things that matter; and it might even be socially acceptable for people to change their mind upon reflection."

even if this were a reasonable expectation, it would still be a pathetically weak and hopeless rationale.

and it's *not* even a reasonable expectation.

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[info]prester_scott
2008-01-29 08:14 pm UTC (link)
I re-registered Republican just so that I could cast my vote for Ron Paul today, the only person in the race who's not a socialist.

I think I could bring myself to vote for Romney in November. If it's McCain vs. anyone (either Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, or Our ShorDurPerSav) then I am going to have to think long and hard whether to vote first before going out to the rifle range.

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[info]dingodonkey
2008-01-29 10:38 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad my alternative middle names (after all, it's slanderous if we say Hussein, or so I'm told) are catching on :-) If he's the nominee, I'm going to have a field day!

I hear a lot of the same people liking Obama and McCain -- and it has nothing to do with their policies, I don't think. Yeah yeah, we've all heard McCain is a Democrat in disguise, blah blah blah, but the truth is that those two are way too far apart to appeal to the same people based on policy. I think people are just fed up with at-each-others-throats politics, which we've had nonstop since Pres. Clinton started the throat-cutting and the Republicans embraced it in turn. A lot of people see Obama and McCain is alternatives to that, because they really do, compared to the other candidates at least, avoid cheap shots against "the enemy" other party.

Obama has a lot of people fooled. I'm more inclined to take McCain at face value, sly and calculating as he might be.

If Sen. Obama becomes president, I'll be a very broken man. If he becomes the Democrat nominee, I might find myself active in a political race for the first (and likely last) time in my life. I don't need another savior from above.

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